Wednesday newsletters always feature a luxury hotel and/or flight review.
A couple of weeks ago, I enjoyed a wonderful trip to Thailand. You can read my trip reports here:
- Today: Swiss Airbus A340 Business Class from Zurich to Bangkok
- Review of the St Regis Bangkok
- Review of ultra-luxurious Soneva Kiri (my best hotel experience ever!)
- Austrian Airlines B777 Business Class from Bangkok to Vienna
Today (June 3, 2015): Trip report: Swiss Airbus A340 Business Class Zürich (Switzerland) to Bangkok (Thailand).
On April 14th 2015, I flew Business Class in Swiss International Air Lines‘ oldest Airbus A340-300 from Zürich Airport (ZRH) in Switzerland to Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Aiport (BKK) in Thailand. Swiss is part of the Lufthansa group and has the reputation of being one of Europe’s best airlines, offering a great onboard product. I flew them a couple of years ago and I loved the experience (although this may be explained by the fact that it was my first Business Class flight ever). On this particular occasion, they failed to impress me: the Business Class product – albeit only a few years old – starts to feel dated, the entertainment system (with very small personal screens) is disappointing, the seat is very uncomfortable in the lie flat position, and they ran out of food options.
Swiss International Air Lines (still) features in my top 10 list of best airlines for longhaul Business Class.
- Trip: ZRH-BKK
- Airline: Swiss International Air Lines
- Aircraft type: Airbus A340-300
- Aircraft registration number: HB-JMJ
- Flight Number: LX180
- Date: April 14th, 2015
- On time departure: yes (6pm)
- On time arrival: yes (9.30 am)
- Miles: 5632
- Flight time: 10.30
- Seat: 10A
- Class: business (D)
In this review (more information & photos below my Youtube clip & slideshow):
- Zurich Airport Panorama Lounge
- Business Class cabin
- Business Class seat (+ best & worst seats)
- Amenities
- Meals
- Entertainment
- Other inflight experiences (views, crew, lavatory, WiFi)
- My verdict (score)
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1. PANORAMA LOUNGE AT ZURICH AIRPORT
Most of Swiss’ intercontinental flights (to the US, Asia and Africa) depart from Zurich Airport’s Concourse E, which is connected to the main terminals by a 5 minute, underground train ride. The latter aims to impress transfer passengers with cool graphics of a good-looking girl in the mountains (Heidi, girl of the Alps?) displayed on the tunnel wall and with sounds of Alphorns and mooing cows; this is Switzerland after all!
Unfortunately, Swiss does not have its own lounge at Concourse E, but uses the Panorama Lounge instead, which caters to First and Business Class passengers of a variety of airlines (Emirates is the only airline which has its own lounge in Concourse E). Holders of Priority Pass and Diners Club also have access to Panorama Lounge. The lounge decor is far from inspiring and the food options are very basic (sandwiches, fruit, soup, and a cake). On a positive note, chairs are comfortable and the floor to ceiling windows have gorgeous views on the tarmac and Alpes. In summer, they open their private outdoor terrace, so you can enjoy some fresh air with the runway right in front of you.
Compared to the Swiss Lounge in the main terminal, the Panorama Lounge is clearly a step down. So, unless you are a plane freak and love to observe the tarmac traffic (either from the inside of the lounge or on the terrace), you may prefer to wait in Swiss Lounge and then take the underground ride to Concourse E around 10 minutes before boarding time.
From the lounge, it was a 5 minute walk to the gate where the Airbus A340-300 was ready for boarding. On this occasion, the flight was operated by Swiss’ oldest Airbus A340, registration number HB-JMJ (a former Canada Airlines plane, that left the Airbus factory in Toulouse in 1996).
![PANORAMA LOUNGE](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140137.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
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![PANORAMA LOUNGE: VIEWS ON TARMAC](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140128.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
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![SWISS AIRBUS A340 (REGISTATION NR HB-JMJ), READY FOR BOARDING](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140142.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
2. BUSINESS CLASS CABIN
Business Class on Swiss’ Airbus A340 is spread over 2 cabins: a small Business Class cabin with only 9 seats (in 2 rows) is located behind the First Class cabin, and a large Business Class cabin with just 38 seats (in 8 rows) is situated in front of the Economy cabin. Both Business Class cabins are divided by the main boarding door, a galley and 2 lavatories.
The Business Class seats are placed in a staggered configuration, a so-called Sogerma Solstys layout, whereby the foot compartment for each seat is located between and under the seats in front. The same layout can be found on Brussels Airlines’ A330, Finnair’s A330/A340, Austrian’s B767/B777, Delta’s B767, and American’s B767. On the Swiss Airbus A340, this configuration means that the middle seats always come in pairs, the aisle seats on the right side of the plane are all single seats, while the seats on the left side of the plane alternate from one to two per row. All seats enjoy a lot of privacy, as none of the rows quite line up, so nobody is directly looking into the seat across the aisle. Most seats also have direct aisle access, except for the window seats on left side of the plane where you will have to jump over your neighbour’s legs.
The cabin feels spacious, airy, and very ‘Swiss’, with a sharp contrast between blond wood and cross-stitched, dark brown seats. But although the Business Class product was only introduced across the Swiss fleet a few years ago, it starts to feel a little dated. It definitely looks and feels less trendy, luxurious and fresh as compared to the design aboard its Lufthansa Group sister company Austrian Airlines, which uses the same layout (click here to read my review of Austrian’s longhaul Business Class). If you have a choice, fly Austrian, not Swiss.
Click here for the seat map of Swiss’s Airbus A340-300.
![BUSINESS CLASS CABIN](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140151.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
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![CABIN, A FEW HOURS AFTER TAKE OFF](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140249.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
3. THE BUSINESS CLASS SEAT
I was seated in seat 8A.
All Business Class seats have the same characteristics: 152 cm (60 inches) in pitch, a width of 52 cm (20,5 inch), and a 180 degree recline. All seats have at least one large work surface on the side (where you can set up your laptop), with some seats featuring a work space on both sides (a so-called ‘throne seat’). Within that work surface, you will find the seat controls to adjust the seat position (from take-off position to fully flat) but also to adjust the seat cushion. Yes, you read that right. Swiss Business Class seats are not made of the customary plastic foam, but instead, the seat cushions have air-filled chambers, and with one press on the button you can either soften or firm up the seat cushion according to your liking, as well as activate its integrated massage function. On the side of the seat, there’s also a power port with international adapters, a personal reading lamp (at eye level), and the meal tray (which is hard to get out). In front of the seat, you will find the disappointingly small entertainment screen (more on that below), with the foot compartment below.
The seat is comfortable when you are sitting upright, but it’s a different story in its lie-flat position. Although it’s a 180 degree recline, the seat (and your lower legs) descends into a space carved out for it in the seat(s) in front, below your entertainment screen. This foot compartment narrows to its end and its ceiling is very low, so it’s impossible to switch position during your sleep as your legs have not enough room to move (although the seats that do not have the ‘throne’ feature have a little more space for the feet). In addition, in its lie flat position, the seat is just 45 cm (17 inch) above the floor, making it feel like you are resting on the ground or in a coffin (because of the seat walls), and making it very uncomfortable getting in and out to go to the restroom. This is one of the most uncomfortable lie flat seats in the sky, especially when compared to the lie flat seats installed on its competitors such as American Airlines, British Airways, Emirates, Qatar Airways, Etihad and Cathay Pacific (click the links to read my trip reports of those airlines).
What are the best Business Class seats on Swiss’ Airbus A340-300? Click here for a seat map.
- The seats in the first cabin (row 4 & 5) are preferable since this cabin feels more intimate.
- The single best seats for solo travelers are the throne seats 10A and 12A. Unfortunately, Swiss reserves these seats for its Miles & More Elite members, although you could always call the Swiss reservation center to request one of these seats (it worked for me).
- If 10A or 12A are not available, then solo travelers should go for 4A or 6A (also throne seats, albeit with a less open view), or the seats on the right side of the plane, which are all solo seats: these come with less work space, but have a larger foot compartment.
- Travel companions should go for the middle seats, which all have direct aisle access. There are also paired window seats in rows 5, 7, 9, 11 and 14, but here the passenger in the window seat will have to jump over his/her neighbour’s feet to get access to aisle.
What are the worst Business Class seats on Swiss’ Airbus A340-300? Click here for a seat map.
- I suggest to avoid the window seats in row 8 (8A & AK) since they are missing a window.
- Seats 14A, 14B & 14K as well as seats 15D & 15G are directly in front of the Economy bassinet seats (so you may end up being close to young children).
![SEAT 8A](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140159.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![SEAT 8A](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140153.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![SEAT 8A](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140165.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![SEAT 8A](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140164.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![SEAT 8A](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140161.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![SEAT CONTROLS](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140215.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![SEAT 8A: LIE FLAT POSITION](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140252.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![SEAT 8A: LIE FLAT POSITION](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140256.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
4. AMENITIES
Each seat comes with a nice though somewhat firm blanket and a comfortable pillow. The Business Class amenity kit, an environmently-friendly bag, only contained essentials: lipbalm, (bright red) socks, eyeshade, toothbrush, toothpaste, and earplugs. IMHO, this is one of the most basic – and thus most disappointing – amenity kits in the skies.
![AMENITY KIT](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140182.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
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5. MEALS
Before takeoff, I was offered a choice of welcome drinks: orange juice, water, or Champagne. I had the orange juice. A small, hot towel was offered after take-off.
About 30 minutes later (6.30 pm local time), dinner was served. Although food was very good and tasty, the crew unfortunately ran out of food options after taking orders from only a few passengers. I was seated in row 8 (Business Class starts in row 4, and ends in row 14), but fish was no longer available when they took my order (despite the fact that Business Class was only half full). Remarkably, I later learned that a friend, who was seated in row 10, insisted on having the fish and got it.
The starter consisted of salmon trout tartare with horseradish cream, beetroot and goat’s cheese. Delicious! While I would have prefered the fish as a main course, the only choice left was corn-fed chicken with Sbrinz sauce, potato purée with truffle, gnocchi, and green aspergus. It was quite good. Dessert was a tiramisu Tentazioni with salted chocolate crumble. All by all, an excellent gastronomic experience at 40,000 feet.
90 minutes prior to landing, breakfast was served. The crew rolled a selection of cold and hot items through the cabin and you could choose what you want: cold meats, several cheeses, muesli, fruit salad, and/or eggs.
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![APERO](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140220.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![STARTER (SALMON TARTAR) WITH SALAD AND CHEESE](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140223.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
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![STARTER (SALMON TARTAR) WITH SALAD AND CHEESE](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140228.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
![MAIN COURSE: CHICKEN](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140232.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
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6. ENTERTAINMENT
In front of your seat, you will find the adjustable personal entertainment screen. It is disappointingly small (10.4 inches) and as such feels very outdated as compared to Swiss’ competitors. In addition, the quality of the screen is quite poor. The entertainment program itself was ok: it did what is was supposed to do, keep me entertained with over 140 films and TV programmes as well as 400 CD’s to choose from. Unfortunately, the planes cameras did not work (or at least did not connect to the entertainment system). And to my great disappointment, one my favorite features during a flight did not work as well: the flight map showed the plane located at Zurich airport for the duration of the flight.
![PERSONAL ENTERTAINMENT SCREEN](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4150270.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
7. OTHER INFLIGHT EXPERIENCES
# VIEWS: immediately after take-off, passengers on the right side of the plane were offered some tremendous and stunning views of the Alps.
![VIEW OF ALPS AFTER TAKE OFF](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140188.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
# CREW: the cabin crew on this flight was great, welcoming and served all of us with a smile.
# LAVATORY: The Business Class lavatory design is very simple. Lavatories were kept clean during the flight.
![BUSINESS CLASS LAVATORY](https://i0.wp.com/theluxurytravelexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/p4140242.jpg?resize=620%2C465&ssl=1)
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# INTERNET: onboard WiFi is currently not offered by Swiss.
8. MY VERDICT
- Seat : 5/10
- Food: 6/10
- Inflight entertainment : 3/10
- Service: 8/10
- Cabin: 6/10
- Overall experience: average: 5/10
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Really really great review. Thank you. So nice to get a review that doesn’t automatically fawn over a business class product and cuts to the point.
Thank you for your nice comment
Hey, I am obsessed with planes and luxury travel! Before I choose the airline I always look through reviews to choose the best option! Your blog really helped me and I will fly with Swiss Business Class for my next travel!
Regards
Iamlvf
Nice review! Those seats sure do look a tad uncomfortable when fully reclined, I like to sleep on my side which would be rather annoying with those massive arm rest/walls. Also what do you use as camera? I’m planning to live blog my flight from SIN-LHR with BA in Business class 🙂
Thank you for the nice comment. I use an Olympus SZ-31MR.
Hi
I enjoy your trip reports and YouTube videos thank you for the time and effort you put in. I must let you know that “The Travel Kid” has reposted your video, British Airways 747, in case you’re not aware and want to follow up
Regards
Richard
Re my last comment, correction its “The Aviation Kid”
Thx, Richard, for your kind comment and informing me about a copy of my video. I am glad you like my blog & Youtube channel!
It is called Switzerland! I’m not swiss but i always enjoyed flying with them on business class. But i agree the screen is very small. And by the way i really LOVE your page and your detailed reviews. And for my future flights i will always have a look on your superb homepage. Thank You! You’re doing an awesome job!
Thx so much for your awesome comment!
Dear Travel Expert,
Have only flown Swiss 1st, but do not now have enough points to upgrade so will have to go business on the long haul BKK ZUR. Am terrified as I just returned Singapore Sydney business with SQ and was the most miserable flight of my life. I am 6’3″ (193) and I just could not fit. In seating position, my knees and legs hit the seat in front unless sitting bolt upright. In flat bed I could not easily fit my feet into a squashed corner (different to Swiss, you have to lie diagonally. I could see a deep venous thrombosis coming up not good at my age (76). Do you think this would happen to me in Swiss business? I tried Premium and ordinary Economy in SQ and they were more comfortable. Please be so kind as to send me reply.
Hi there, If you did not like SQ Business Class, I am afraid you won’t like Swiss’ Business Class either. Make sure you book a flight on Swiss’ Boeing 777 (and not the Airbus A330/340) since the B777 features Swiss’ newest, upgraded Business Class product. Safe travels!
Thank you so much for your advice about Swiss Business. It is not so much that I didn’t like it – For normal sized people it would be magnificent – I have always said the Business in SQ is equivalent to First on most other airlines. No matter what I did upright or flat I did not fit AT ALL, and anything in-between was impossible.
However, according to your pictures, there must be more space than SQ as you could lie flat straight and not diagonally into a tiny corner – the bed is triangular. It will be a daylight flight BKK ZUR so I am not particularly worried about sleeping just being able to be seated reclined comfortably as this was impossible on SQ. Also sitting upright, the SQ screens are so huge they are in your face, so I don’t mind the smaller screen.
Kind regards,
Wilbur Hughes